2012年4月28日 星期六

澳洲 Perth Mint 重鑄沒賣出的笑翠鳥限額


1990年舊版澳洲笑翠鳥 2011年尾在華興買 600蚊

舊版方盒只用到 1998 年, 之後發行的全是用圓盒

Kitco Forum

Perth mint has gone back and reminted the 1992 Kooks to the 300K mintage limit. Many dealers had or have these in stock at low premiums compared to usual Kooks. If you are a collector of these I would suggest just wait until Perth remints other years. If you are a dealer I would dump your old year Kooks - the premiums across all years of the Kook line should crash with the prospects of all previous years being flooded with new Kooks.

Here are past mintages and how many Perth can actual pump out.

Perth Mint 1oz Kookaburra Coins

Year ... Max Mintage ...Actual Mintage ... Difference
1990 ... 300,000 ........300,000 ................0
1991 ....300,000 ........278,136 .......... 21,864
1992 ....300,000 ....... 195,118 ..........104,882
1993 ... 300,000 ........165,406 ..........134,594
1994 ....300,000 ........153,414 ..........146,586
1995 ... 300,000 ....... 131,411 ......... 168,589
1996 ... 300,000 ........146,286 ......... 153,714
1997 ....300,000 ........147,781 ..........152,219
1998 ... 300,000 .........91,550 ......... 208,450
1999 ....300,000 ........ 98,513 ......... 201,487
2000 ... 300,000 ........ 93,238 ..........206,762
2001 ... 300,000 ....... 158,969 ..........141,031
2002 ... 300,000 .........76,245 ..........223,755
2003 ....300,000 ........ 86,737 ......... 213,263
2004 ....300,000 .........74,059 ......... 225,941
2005 ....300,000 .........80,336 ..........219,664
2006 ....300,000 ........ 73,765 ..........226,235
2007 ... 300,000 ........197,229 ..........102,771
2008 ... 300,000 ........300,000 ................0
2009 ....300,000 ....... 300,000 ............... 0
2010 ....300,000 ........300,000 ................0
2011 ... 500,000 ........500,000 ............... 0
2012 ... 500,000 ........500,000 ............... 0

1992年笑翠鳥, 2011年八月在東洋買 460蚊

似乎新發行的 1992年笑翠鳥對比舊的有少少唔同, 因為用咗新印章 !

forums.silverstackers.com

I enquired with the Perth Mint regarding the dies used to produce the current batch of 1992 Kookaburras being distributed, to my relatively untrained eye, the new coins appeared to have finer/thinner details particularly in the branches and leaves above the kook's head.
Here's the response regarding which dies were used:
To produce up to 300,000 coins it is necessary to prepare several sets of dies. All dies for 1992 Kookaburra coins are made from the original working hob.

Any minor differences are down to where any set of dies is in its life cycle.

Every coin is inspected and approved for issue only if it is within our quality parameters. Once the strike no longer satisfies the required level of detail, the dies are scrapped and we move on to the next set.
So basically differences depending on the age of the individual die sets used to strike a particular batch of coins.

36 則留言:

Chic Wong 提到...

東洋有虎$650,好想掃埋,不過無,哈哈平甘多

Lisa 提到...

回Chic Wong,
舊幣差價可以差好多的 !

Lisa 提到...

回dan,
無乜野賣呀, 又貴過 LPM !

Master NLP 提到...

呢間booksilver由台灣過來開店.D lighthouse膠盒10個HK$200,25個HK$500,嚇死人@_@!我仲以為睇錯係台幣.
同旺旺買好過啦!

dan 提到...

佢話肯定會便過lpm~

Master NLP 你睇錯價錢~你睇既係台幣

Master NLP 提到...

我講完之後,booksilver先至改番0岩個價格,多謝都唔講,仲話我睇錯!
明明係香港網頁,我點會睇錯台幣呀?除非佢個網頁顯示台幣價錢姐?但個網頁卻標示HK$.

@Lisa,原來間間貴金屬公司都睇你呢度黎做野.

rl 提到...

睇完Master NLP 講。我都入去睇下!基本上依家係將個價錢改過!Dan周圍做宣傳嚟個網,九成九同個網有密切關系,這個不重要。最重要是謙虛不斷改善,互利互惠做福奇大家。金銀甲都是著重誠信嘅賣家!

Master NLP 提到...

謝rl! 講返句公道說話!

小C9 提到...

NLP,
我昨晚都有睇. D 野好貴, 你冇睇錯, 全部寫住HKD. 所以, 我睇咗幾隻大路都冇再睇. 其實, 一上LMP/ KITCO 果D網已經CHECK 到哂, 冇得呃. 隻PERTH MING 龍昨晚報緊HKD8XX, 今朝再睇係HK6XX, 但都貴過哂LMP/KITCO. 再者, 呢間新店, 又未買過, 就算同LPM/KITCO 一樣OR 平少少, 我都唔會去買, 唔好話而家貴過人地.

Lisa 提到...

想和其他公司競爭, 第一價錢要平外, 還要款式多 !
LPM 暫時都沒引到我上去買野, 還在等佢有無特別岩我的銀幣 ! 因為地點偏遠, 也唔會為只一個幣上去 !

Chic Wong 提到...

回lisa, 甘樣可能要你暗示下咩野合你口味先得,哈哈

Lisa 提到...

回Chic Wong,
有呀, 因為我已貼咗好多幣出來, 不過所以我都買到七七八八啦 XDDD !

Chic Wong 提到...

lpm日日有新幣@@ 有多左兩隻

Master NLP 提到...

謝小C9! :)

@Lisa,你買完先至貼出來,人地睇住你返貨,所以永遠都引唔到你上去啦! XDD!

Lisa 提到...

回Chic Wong,
PM 幣姐嘛, 我都唔去 PM 買, 更加唔會去 LPM 買 XD !

Lisa 提到...

回nlpsonia,
如果我唔係買咗, 又點會貼到相上來呢 ? XDDD !

Lisa 提到...

booksilver 最值得買是 2011變形金剛紀念銀幣(三枚套裝組), 因為 PM 已無貨 !
http://www.booksilver.com.hk/goods.php?id=88

旺旺 提到...

之前我同DAN傾過計。知道佢有朋友係台灣。仲問我可唔可以同CLUB合作。亦係我樹套料。

不過。我見佢幫我買幾個膠盒。但約交收約左一個星期都攞唔到貨。只係24元。已經花了我好多過問邊一日得閒既電郵。

浪費時間

dan 提到...

旺旺

我說既朋友唔係呢間公司,請唔好誤會,我都話左星期三會好d,但係始終你開既交收時間都唔係星期三,咁我可以點呢?

dan 提到...

我只係介紹大家多個買野個地方,唔洗講到好似我揾大家著數又或者同呢間公司有乜關係~大家唔鍾意既就唔去買lo,提供多個買野地方何罪之有?

Lisa 提到...

回dan,
多個賣銀的地方是好事來的, 只睇佢地識唔識加多D又平又靚的金銀幣俾大家買, 唔係就會好似 swiss investment 咁石沉大海 :)

Lisa 提到...

http://forums.silverstackers.com/topic-24912-bargain-much-down-to-x20-20-x-1992-1oz-silver-kookaburra-coin-page-2.html

They've done this before... the most recent I think was the 2007 Kookaburra which they started minting again a few years after its release (2010 or 2011 I think).

http://forums.silverstackers.com/topic-24912-bargain-much-down-to-x20-20-x-1992-1oz-silver-kookaburra-coin-page-4.html

I guess the takeaway from this for the coin collecting community is to expect that any previous years of Kookaburras that did not reach their 300,000 mintage limits are potentially subject to continued minting until this limit is reached. The Perth Mint has done this before with both Kookaburras and Series II 1oz Lunar Mouse, so it's not a new direction.

Ron Currie has explicitly said that previous year Kookaburras can be reminted - see the comments posted under http://www.perthmintbullion.com/blog/bl … Coins.aspx on Nov 22, 2010.

The mint is on record however stating that this would not occur for any Series I Lunar coins, so those mintages are set in stone.

Good news is that there will be opportunities to complete 1oz collections of Kookaburras for those seeking to - assuming the same dies are used, there's also fresh coins in the market to get graded as well.

While not ideal from a numismatic perspective when previous scarcity has been priced into current market prices, mintages of 300,000 for modern bullion coins are still pretty tiny compared to other coins like Pandas and ASEs.

http://forums.silverstackers.com/topic-24912-bargain-much-down-to-x20-20-x-1992-1oz-silver-kookaburra-coin-page-8.html
When did you do this tally Big AD as it looks like they have been reminting several other years between your tally and October 2011...

5500 extra 1991s
3000 exrta 1992s
15,000 extra 1993s
10,000 extra 1994s

Lisa 提到...

原來PM已在早年重鑄沒去到限額的笑翠鳥, 所以唔怪得我1994/1996笑翠鳥是用圓盒的, 而1998是方盒 ! 原本1990至1998年的笑翠鳥是用方盒的, 後鑄的全是用圓盒 ! 而唔係鬍鬚仔說的, 方盒是歐洲版 XD !

Lisa 提到...

而鬍鬚仔之前叫人買發行量少的笑翠鳥是掉眼鏡俾PM耍, 因為依家最值錢, 是一早已去到300,000限額的笑翠鳥, 因為唔會舊幣新鑄 !

Lisa 提到...

原來PM出過咁野, 唔好以為是假幣 XD
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tinm-xM0t9M
PM真痴線 !

Lisa 提到...

想買 high relief kookaburra 的人要快手啦 !
http://www.perthmint.com.au/catalogue/australian-kookaburra-2012-1oz-silver-proof-high-relief-coin.aspx

Chic Wong 提到...

價錢都係八百幾,但今年都唔靚,要買買袋鼠還靚!

DC 提到...

回 LISA, LISA好熱心, 幫大家“昅”住PM, 所以我已經買左啦。XDD

嘉芙蓮 提到...

booksilver 最值得買是 2011變形金剛紀念銀幣(三枚套裝組), 因為 PM 已無貨 !
http://www.booksilver.com.hk/goods.php?id=88

呢個真係要買,我之前果套送咗比人,而家貴咗好多呀!

Lisa 提到...

回嘉芙蓮,
今日乘假日快D去買返啦 :)

鬍鬚仔 提到...

Lisa
PM 重鑄咁玩法,都可謂見利忘義,既賺不了大錢,亦令人有被欺騙之感,你若一早開宗明義講明或會重鑄又唔同,正所謂買既人已預左,而家 2 幾年後玩呢招,一早收集既人心理滿不是味兒.
如果佢夠胆重鑄一二期生肖,咁樣,來年之生肖幣一定溢價冇現在咁高,公佈左既量都可以再重鑄,搵亞戊同佢買,成班管理層個腦生係pat pat 度.

Lisa 提到...

回鬍鬚仔,
已確定第一期唔會重鑄, 但第二期就驚驚, 除咗 1盎司銀幣, 其他 size 有機會重鑄, 只要有公司想訂一大批 !
PM衰在推個 mintage 表出來, 原來表內有D野可以有變數的 !
外國討論區都好多人抗議, 說唔再儲笑翠鳥啦 !

鬍鬚仔 提到...

呢 D 咪吃力不討好 LOR,班新管理層(我估)仲唔係個腦有問題?直頭係自毀長城,搬石頭扎自己隻腳.

honson 提到...

PM老細係邊個...?

澳洲政府

國家財政要有增長先得架,

鬍鬚仔 提到...

乜國家財政靠重鑄幣就有增長?未免兵行險著呱?鑄多幾條不一樣的龍還來得有效啦.

honson 提到...

出新野要一早安排通告,重做唔夠額大條道理,
講真,玩得所謂收藏呢家野,完全是在被動位置,
以純興趣欣賞為目的,就理得佢做幾多量,